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    CZ's, shite or worse?

    This is an itch that comes back every few years, I've got a hankering for a CZ175 trailie.


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    I've no intention of using it offroad, just something to run around town, a shopping trolley. The question is, are they really crap like the Soviet 2 strokes or, (as I have it in my head) just basic, no frills rugged & reasonably dependable?

    There's one on ebay at the mo' but it's massively overpriced, if something were to turn up under a grand?

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    Beast! 2 leader front brake and all.

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    Weight of a 250 and the performance of a 125
    get a MZ 250
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    Started my riding on a 175 CZ roadster way back in 1982, so I know what you mean. Unfortunately Eastern block bikes have now become something of a collectors item, and vastly overpriced for what they are. Build is basic and rugged, simple to fix, better than Russian, but not as refined as an MZ! Brakes better than the MZ250 Supa5, lighting not as good. Shares a common ancestor with the Bantam, and Minsk 125 as they are based on the DKW125 (which became MZ) as the design for this engine was released as part of the reparations after WW2.

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    I do understand the attraction.
    There are just so many bikes out there that are descendants of machines created by Walter Kaaden's MZ,s that every real motorcycle enthusiast should have one. There is just something special about those engines/bikes that has not been duplicated in the new bikes..

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    Leaving aside performance, a lot of the reliability issues were down to poor original bearings, so if it had modern replacements I'd say indulge and enjoy something a little different and you'll be sure to end up being late home when you go out on it due to getting into interesting conversations. Go for it! (Their motocross offerings of the 1970s looked amazing, just not road legal! Why couldn't they have brought some of those looks to their road machines?)

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    Here ya go Steve

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    There used to be a CZ dealer very close to me, he sold loads of those and quite a few of these

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    At 15 I had a 1/2 share in a 250 MX with a mate a school, it was feckin terrifying after being used to Bantams and Honda 90's , Bill Brown Motorcycles is now Wulfsport, I've spoken to his counter guys and they reckon he's still got a few shelves worth of parts.

    I agree on the bearings & stuff, the only unique part of the trailie was the silencer , everything else is available and so cheap from Czecho' like £15 for a kickstart etc...

    I'll find one?

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    Exactly! That silver tanked one looks like adrenalin on wheels to me. One like that featured in Top Trumps 'Light Motorcycles' if I recall. (That pack also included a Honda CB550F at an incredible 80kg which I reckon they'd missed off the '1' from as it's more like 180kg for sure.)

    Doesn't really sound like you need much persuading, Max! Keep those eyes peeled for one.

    In our early twenties, two mates from school had an old 400 Maico (which kept breaking down,) and a very tall and tidy YZ490 which they'd cram into a van and drive into the hills nearby for some less than legal off roading, usually on a Sunday morning. It was by invitation only as the noise and crowd usually drew some attention from the Old Bill. By the time the rest of us had met them at that week's closely guarded destination there were about 15 lads all queueing up for a go plus other hangers on. Riding pillion on a 490MX with no pillion pegs is pretty crazy!

    The Maico was quite civilised compared to the YZ which I never managed to get higher than 2nd gear on, it was so fast! Ah, those were the days!
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    Nothing wrong with the way a Russian handles in the dirt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by colinjay View Post
    Nothing wrong with the way a Russian handles in the dirt!
    Nice one Col, K650 or MT9?

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